Comments on: Poll: Do you subscribe to the idea of a Lenten sacrifice? http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/ Ireland's Internet Newspaper Thu, 24 May 2012 00:04:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Mary Arenahttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-275210 Mary Arena Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:12:38 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-275210 Yes Yes

]]> By: Chuck Farrellyhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-274161 Chuck Farrelly Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:25:17 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-274161 Right so you are Sovereign Being? Clarify it so, because "It grinds my gears when I see all those self righteous bigots walking around with theirs scribblings on their foreheads, like they’re better than us" seem pretty definitive.You get annoyed when you SEE them. No need for them to say or do anything, seeing them is enough to confirm bigotry. Now, since the only unifying trait that you can indentify by sight is something that marks them as catholic, and you then make the leap to them being 'self righteous bigots'........well, it stands to reason that you are equating being catholic with being a self righteous bigot. So that's exactly what you saidWhich is very self-righteous of you. And bigoted.Over to you for the back peddling Right so you are Sovereign Being? Clarify it so, because “It grinds my gears when I see all those self righteous bigots walking around with theirs scribblings on their foreheads, like they’re better than us” seem pretty definitive.

You get annoyed when you SEE them. No need for them to say or do anything, seeing them is enough to confirm bigotry. Now, since the only unifying trait that you can indentify by sight is something that marks them as catholic, and you then make the leap to them being ‘self righteous bigots’……..well, it stands to reason that you are equating being catholic with being a self righteous bigot. So that’s exactly what you said

Which is very self-righteous of you. And bigoted.

Over to you for the back peddling

]]> By: Chuck Farrellyhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-274053 Chuck Farrelly Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:11:03 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-274053 So just being a catholic is enough to make you a self rigtheous bigot now? I wish they were more tolerant, like you So just being a catholic is enough to make you a self rigtheous bigot now? I wish they were more tolerant, like you

]]> By: Daisy Chainsawhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273946 Daisy Chainsaw Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:47:38 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273946 I'm going to give up procrastinating.Soon.... I’m going to give up procrastinating.

Soon….

]]> By: Seán Joe Kearnshttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273684 Seán Joe Kearns Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:38:36 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273684 As opposed to modern religions??A Scientoligist in out midst?I joke As opposed to modern religions??

A Scientoligist in out midst?

I joke

]]> By: Padraig McCannhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273670 Padraig McCann Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:32:39 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273670 Very well said Mary! Very well said Mary!

]]> By: Eileen Gabbetthttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273634 Eileen Gabbett Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:18:39 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273634 Sorry ...... on that day March 17th. Sorry …… on that day March 17th.

]]> By: Eileen Gabbetthttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273630 Eileen Gabbett Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:17:48 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273630 Yeah but because Paddy's day Is the feast day of Ireland ,we can all abstain from fasting or in other words ,pig out , on what we gave up in the first place. :) Yeah but because Paddy’s day Is the feast day of Ireland ,we can all abstain from fasting or in other words ,pig out , on what we gave up in the first place. :)

]]> By: Mercy Mercymehttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273546 Mercy Mercyme Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:30:17 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273546 Nonsense nonsense! Nonsense nonsense!

]]> By: Mary Cullinanehttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273519 Mary Cullinane Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:15:24 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273519 @Sovereign Being obviously you are one of those people who think that being part of a specific Church and having a belief in some form of a God/Spiritual being are one and the same thing. Well I don't believe that at all, I think very many people have a belief in some form of Spiritualism without wanting to be tagged as Catholics, Church of Ireland or whatever. As I stated above I was brought up a Catholic but I have very little association at this stage of my life with either a physical Catholic Church or any part of the Church's teachings etc. but I chose to believe that there is some "Being" out there who is greater than us and who can have a very positive input into our lives if we allow him/her. That is my belief and you are also very entitled to your belief that that is not the case but I think it is wrong to 1) Call those who do believe "self righteous bigots" and 2) Refer to the tradition of putting ashes on ones forehead Ash Wednesday in such a derogotory way. Everybody is entitled to their own beliefs & it beholds us all to respect all points of view including those we disagree with. @Sovereign Being obviously you are one of those people who think that being part of a specific Church and having a belief in some form of a God/Spiritual being are one and the same thing. Well I don’t believe that at all, I think very many people have a belief in some form of Spiritualism without wanting to be tagged as Catholics, Church of Ireland or whatever. As I stated above I was brought up a Catholic but I have very little association at this stage of my life with either a physical Catholic Church or any part of the Church’s teachings etc. but I chose to believe that there is some “Being” out there who is greater than us and who can have a very positive input into our lives if we allow him/her. That is my belief and you are also very entitled to your belief that that is not the case but I think it is wrong to 1) Call those who do believe “self righteous bigots” and 2) Refer to the tradition of putting ashes on ones forehead Ash Wednesday in such a derogotory way. Everybody is entitled to their own beliefs & it beholds us all to respect all points of view including those we disagree with.

]]> By: Sovereign Beinghttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273485 Sovereign Being Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:57:03 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273485 Should say "their ash scribblings". Bloody phone. Should say “their ash scribblings”. Bloody phone.

]]> By: Sovereign Beinghttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273476 Sovereign Being Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:53:38 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273476 No, I don't and won't be partaking in this Christian nonsense. It grinds my gears when I see all those self righteous bigots walking around with theirs scribblings on their foreheads, like they're better than us filthy non believers. I will never obey the church or follow a single one of their customs. No, I don’t and won’t be partaking in this Christian nonsense. It grinds my gears when I see all those self righteous bigots walking around with theirs scribblings on their foreheads, like they’re better than us filthy non believers. I will never obey the church or follow a single one of their customs.

]]> By: Sasha Musgravehttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273446 Sasha Musgrave Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:38:29 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273446 I agree with Mary, instead of giving up something for lent do something nice for somebody, and that will make you feel you. You don't need to do it for religion, but just do it for your own good, you will be better off. I agree with Mary, instead of giving up something for lent do something nice for somebody, and that will make you feel you. You don’t need to do it for religion, but just do it for your own good, you will be better off.

]]> By: Séamus Ó Lochlainnhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273391 Séamus Ó Lochlainn Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:02:10 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273391 Fair play Mary couldn't have put it better myself. I'd consider getting up on a Sunday morning to listen to yourself ahead of any of the preachers in the church! Fair play Mary couldn’t have put it better myself. I’d consider getting up on a Sunday morning to listen to yourself ahead of any of the preachers in the church!

]]> By: Alan O Cearbhalláinhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273183 Alan O Cearbhalláin Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:01:21 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273183 Well said Well said

]]> By: Mary Cullinanehttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273163 Mary Cullinane Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:50:32 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273163 I don't understand why most people always have to associate God with Catholicism, it is possible to believe in God or whatever other Spiritual Being you wish to associate with and not call yourself Catholic, so the whole argument of "let the Catholic Church get their house in order" etc etc doesn't wash with me at all, I think many people use it as an excuse to opt out of believing in God and that is fine if that is what a person believes, but the Church and Christianity to me are two very different things. I was brought up Catholic but at this stage I have very little contact with the Catholic Church but I certainly consider myself Spiritual and I believe in a God of sorts, that belief is what keeps me sustained in times of trouble or sorrow. Anyway to get back to the question....I prefer the idea of doing something positive for Lent rather than giving up something. Of course giving up sweets or drink or whatever might be a positive thing in that it's good for our health but I prefer to try and go the extra mile to make a little difference to somebody else's life. It doesn't have to mean making a huge commitment but just maybe calling to an elderly neighbor sometimes or taking somebody to hospital for their chemo...the list is endless and to me doing something more positive to help somebody else would be a more worthy way of doing the whole Lent thing. I don’t understand why most people always have to associate God with Catholicism, it is possible to believe in God or whatever other Spiritual Being you wish to associate with and not call yourself Catholic, so the whole argument of “let the Catholic Church get their house in order” etc etc doesn’t wash with me at all, I think many people use it as an excuse to opt out of believing in God and that is fine if that is what a person believes, but the Church and Christianity to me are two very different things. I was brought up Catholic but at this stage I have very little contact with the Catholic Church but I certainly consider myself Spiritual and I believe in a God of sorts, that belief is what keeps me sustained in times of trouble or sorrow. Anyway to get back to the question….I prefer the idea of doing something positive for Lent rather than giving up something. Of course giving up sweets or drink or whatever might be a positive thing in that it’s good for our health but I prefer to try and go the extra mile to make a little difference to somebody else’s life. It doesn’t have to mean making a huge commitment but just maybe calling to an elderly neighbor sometimes or taking somebody to hospital for their chemo…the list is endless and to me doing something more positive to help somebody else would be a more worthy way of doing the whole Lent thing.

]]> By: Ronan Glynnhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273153 Ronan Glynn Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:46:45 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273153 I'm giving up the usual, crisps, fizzy drinks, sweets and chocolate. Then end it all on Easter Sunday with a big egg! But not for religious reasons. I do it for myself. I’m giving up the usual, crisps, fizzy drinks, sweets and chocolate. Then end it all on Easter Sunday with a big egg! But not for religious reasons. I do it for myself.

]]> By: Catherine Lavertyhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273146 Catherine Laverty Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:45:12 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273146 Can't see what the problem is, if you're a Christian, observe Lent as a mark of your faith in Jesus Christ. If you're not, don't. It's not all about the Catholic Church telling you what to do, it's a personal choice......one which I will personally be chosing to observe. Can’t see what the problem is, if you’re a Christian, observe Lent as a mark of your faith in Jesus Christ. If you’re not, don’t. It’s not all about the Catholic Church telling you what to do, it’s a personal choice……one which I will personally be chosing to observe.

]]> By: Eugene O'Learyhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273143 Eugene O'Leary Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:44:40 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273143 46 days of sacrifice? I find that I am doing 365 days and it's not even for Catholicism, It's being caused by that man, Enda Story! 46 days of sacrifice? I find that I am doing 365 days and it’s not even for Catholicism, It’s being caused by that man, Enda Story!

]]> By: Mark Machttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273114 Mark Mac Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:28:33 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273114 jesus that line is overused jesus that line is overused

]]> By: Bernie Carrollhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273103 Bernie Carroll Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:21:13 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273103 instead of giving up something i advocate taking on something.......eg visit an elderly neighbour.......put a smile on your face when you meet someone (even if you dont feel like smiling) it will spred the happiness. stop watching or listening to the news or reading newspapers its all bad news and makes us feel rotten so give that up, you get the picture.............giving up unhealthy eating habits does make ones body feel good though so maybe try it for a while. Read "The Shack" it may give all the non believers a different perspective on religion and God instead of giving up something i advocate taking on something…….eg visit an elderly neighbour…….put a smile on your face when you meet someone (even if you dont feel like smiling) it will spred the happiness. stop watching or listening to the news or reading newspapers its all bad news and makes us feel rotten so give that up, you get the picture………….giving up unhealthy eating habits does make ones body feel good though so maybe try it for a while. Read “The Shack” it may give all the non believers a different perspective on religion and God

]]> By: Michaelhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273091 Michael Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:16:36 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273091 It is never a bad thing giving up unhealthy habits, I would encourage people to give up religion for lent. It is never a bad thing giving up unhealthy habits, I would encourage people to give up religion for lent.

]]> By: Susan Duffyhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273081 Susan Duffy Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:12:27 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273081 I am giving up commenting!! I am giving up commenting!!

]]> By: Michael Faganhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273060 Michael Fagan Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:01:34 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273060 Reminds me of the Muslim custom of Ramadan , when many Muslims don't eat or drink between sunrise and sunset, then they gather for family feasts as soon as it gets dark. Then a big Christmas like feast at the end of the period, Can Christians learn something from Muslims and vise versa. Reminds me of the Muslim custom of Ramadan , when many Muslims don’t eat or drink between sunrise and sunset, then they gather for family feasts as soon as it gets dark. Then a big Christmas like feast at the end of the period,
Can Christians learn something from Muslims and vise versa.

]]> By: Hanly Sheelaghhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273046 Hanly Sheelagh Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:54:07 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273046 Excuses, excuses! Excuses, excuses!

]]> By: Robert McLoughlinhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273041 Robert McLoughlin Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:48:58 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273041 Many religions around the world advocate periods of abstainence for spiritual reasons. I do not practice any religious observance but use the reminder to push back from the table and get more exercise. Many religions around the world advocate periods of abstainence for spiritual reasons. I do not practice any religious observance but use the reminder to push back from the table and get more exercise.

]]> By: William Lanksteadhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273029 William Lankstead Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:41:19 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273029 I'm giving up sex, drink, nights out with the lads, football practice, supporting a premiership football club, darts,fatty foods, the fags, peace and quiet, self-determination.......oh sorry, that's married life! I’m giving up sex, drink, nights out with the lads, football practice, supporting a premiership football club, darts,fatty foods, the fags, peace and quiet, self-determination…….oh sorry, that’s married life!

]]> By: Christ's Atheistshttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273027 Christ's Atheists Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:41:07 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273027 Can't bring myself to watch proceedings in the Dáil today. Run out of rubber bricks. If I see just one of those idiots with charcoal on their heads in there... Can’t bring myself to watch proceedings in the Dáil today. Run out of rubber bricks. If I see just one of those idiots with charcoal on their heads in there…

]]> By: Padraig McCannhttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-273022 Padraig McCann Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:37:53 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-273022 On this day 16 years ago my parents both gave up cigarettes and to this day have never smoked. You don't always have to give up for Lent. We were also told that you can take something up for Lent. On this day 16 years ago my parents both gave up cigarettes and to this day have never smoked. You don’t always have to give up for Lent. We were also told that you can take something up for Lent.

]]> By: Justin Donoghuehttp://www.thejournal.ie/poll-do-you-subscribe-to-the-idea-of-a-lenten-sacrifice-362089-Feb2012/#comment-272976 Justin Donoghue Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:06:24 +0000 http://www.thejournal.ie/?p=362089#comment-272976 I gave up giving up years ago but if religions can rob other people's ideas and incorporate them into their lives, which they've always done, I don't see why the non believers of us all can't rob their ideas and incorporate them into ours! I gave up giving up years ago but if religions can rob other people’s ideas and incorporate them into their lives, which they’ve always done, I don’t see why the non believers of us all can’t rob their ideas and incorporate them into ours!

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